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Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?

Martin Maechler

2006-09-21

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>>>>> "GS" == Gavin Simpson <gavin.simpson@(protected)>
>>>>>   on Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:08:17 +0100 writes:

  GS> On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 18:56 -0400, Charles Annis, P.E. wrote:
  >> Recommending a good book on statistics is like recommending a good book on
  >> sports: Which sports?
  >>
  >> A good book for learning statistical concepts (and learning R at the same
  >> time), one that assumes you understand algebra but are new to statistics, is
  >> Peter Dalgaard's _Introductory Statistics with R_ (Springer 2002). The
  >> writing is relaxed and succinct, not condescending as some texts might
  >> appear to a newcomer. It's just a good book.

  GS> I couldn't agree more. A number of my colleagues have bought Peter
  GS> Dalgaard's book to a) learn some R and b) learn some statistics. They
  GS> have found it very useful indeed.

Yes!
I'm pretty sure it has been the first book of its kind ("Intro Stats + R"),
and in my view is still the best.

Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich


  >>
  >> Charles Annis, P.E.
  >>
  >> Charles.Annis@(protected)
  >> phone: 561-352-9699
  >> eFax: 614-455-3265
  >> http://www.StatisticalEngineering.com
  >>
  >>
  >> -----Original Message-----
  >> From: r-help-bounces@(protected)
  >> [mailto:r-help-bounces@(protected)
  >> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:36 PM
  >> To: Berton Gunter
  >> Cc: r-help@(protected)
  >> Subject: Re: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?
  >>
  >> Excellent characterization.
  >>
  >> MASS is a very good book, but I'm not sure I would describe it as a
  >> statistics textbook, much less one of the "basic" variety. While I
  >> certainly wouldn't presume to speak for Prof. Ripley and Dr. Venables,
  >> it seems unlikely their intent in writing MASS was to teach
  >> statistics, but rather, as the name of the book might suggest, to
  >> explain how S+ (and R) can be applied to modern statistical
  >> techniques. My experience with this book is that it assumes
  >> considerable background knowledge.
  >>
  >> By all means, buy MASS, but if you need guidance on the how and why of
  >> statistical techniques, you may wish to shop Amazon to find a
  >> supplement.
  >>
  >> Regards,
  >>
  >> Mike
  >>
  >> On 9/20/06, Berton Gunter <gunter.berton@(protected):
  >> > Not withstanding Prof. Heiberger's admirable enthusiasm, I think the
  >> > canonical answer is probably MASS (Modern Applied Statistics with S) by
  >> > Venables and Ripley. It is very comprehensive, but depending on your
  >> > background, you may find it too telegraphic.
  >> >
  >> > -- Bert Gunter
  >> > Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics
  >> > South San Francisco, CA
  >> >
  >> > "The business of the statistician is to catalyze the scientific learning
  >> > process." - George E. P. Box
  >> >
  >> >
  >> >
  >> > > -----Original Message-----
  >> > > From: r-help-bounces@(protected)
  >> > > [mailto:r-help-bounces@(protected)
  >> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:22 PM
  >> > > To: r-help@(protected)
  >> > > Subject: [R] Statitics Textbook - any recommendation?
  >> > >
  >> > > I would like to buy a basic statistics book (experimental design,
  >> > > sampling, ANOVA, regression, etc.) with examples in R. Or
  >> > > download it
  >> > > in PDF or html format.
  >> > > I went to the CRAN contributed documentation, but there were only R
  >> > > textbooks, that is, textbooks where R is the focus, not the
  >> > > statistics. And I would like to find the opposite.
  >> > > Other text I am trying to find is multivariate data analysis (EFA,
  >> > > cluster, mult regression, MANOVA, etc.) with examples with R.
  >> > > Any recommendation?
  >> > >
  >> > > Thank you in advance,
  >> > >
  >> > > Iuri.
  >> > >
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  >>
  >>
  >> --
  >> Regards,
  >>
  >> Mike Nielsen
  >>
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