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Re: [R] R in Industry

Martin Maechler

2007-02-07

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>>>>> "Frank" == Frank E Harrell <f.harrell@(protected)>
>>>>>   on Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:59:45 -0600 writes:

  Frank> Matthew Keller wrote:
  >> Bob,
  >>
  >> Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one
  >> that I imagine most people who use R have come
  >> across. The name "R" is a big impediment to effective
  >> online searches. As a check, I entered "R software", "SAS
  >> software", SPSS software", and "S+ software" into
  >> google. The R 'hit rate' was only ten out of the first 20
  >> results (I didn't look any further). For the other three
  >> software packages, the hit rates were all 100% (20/20).
  >>
  >> I do wonder if anything can/should be done about this. I
  >> generally search using the term "CRAN" but of course,
  >> that omits lots of stuff relevant to R. Any ideas about
  >> how to do effective online searches for "R" related
  >> materials?

I don't think we (the R foundation) will ever change away from
"R"..

  >>
  >> Matt

  Frank> I just googled for "R" and www.r-project.org was the
  Frank> first hit. Don't see a problem at present.

We are getting really off-topic, but that's interesting:

We all know that Google is helping the Chinese government to
censor their own people, so searches there can lead to
completely different results. But even here in Zurich
Switzerland, I get quite a different hitlist :

1) stat.ethz.ch/~statsoft/stat.programme/R.html [in German]

2) Our local CRAN mirror: stat.ethz.ch/CRAN/

3) R - (German-language) Wikipedia about letter "R": de.wikipedia.org/wiki/R

4) DVD-R - (German-language) Wikipedia de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-R

5) The R Project for Statistical Computing http://www.r-project.org/

So 3/5 are related to R which sounds good, but actually these 3
are all from the first twenty: 3/20.

Martin


  >> On 2/6/07, Wensui Liu <liuwensui@(protected):
  >>> I've been looking for job that allows me to use R/S+
  >>> since I got out of graduate school 2 years ago but with
  >>> no success. I am wondering if there is something that
  >>> can be done to promote the use of R in industry.
  >>>
  >>> It's been very frustrating to see people doing
  >>> statistics using excel/spss and even more frustrating to
  >>> see people paying $$$ for something much inferior to R.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On 2/6/07, Doran, Harold <HDoran@(protected):
  >>>> The other day, CNN had a story on working at
  >>>> Google. Out of curiosity, I went to the Google
  >>>> employment web site (I'm not looking, but just
  >>>> curious). In perusing their job posts for
  >>>> statisticians, preference is given to those who use R
  >>>> and python. Other languages, S-Plus and something
  >>>> called SAS were listed as lower priorities.
  >>>>
  >>>> When I started using Python, I noted they have a
  >>>> portion of the web site with job postings. CRAN does
  >>>> not have something similar, but think it might be
  >>>> useful. I think R is becoming more widely used in
  >>>> industry and I wonder if helping it move along a bit,
  >>>> the maintainer of CRAN could create a section of the
  >>>> web site devoted to jobs where R is a requirement.
  >>>>
  >>>> Hence, we could have our own little "monster.com" kind
  >>>> of thing going on. Of the multitude of ways the gospel
  >>>> can be spread, this is small. But, I think every small
  >>>> step forward is good.
  >>>>
  >>>> Anyone think this is useful?
  >>>>
  >>>> Harold
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>> [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
  >>>>
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  >>>>
  >>>
  >>> --
  >>> WenSui Liu A lousy statistician who happens to know a
  >>> little programming
  >>> (http://spaces.msn.com/statcompute/blog)
  >>>
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  >>


  Frank> -- Frank E Harrell Jr Professor and Chair School of
  Frank> Medicine Department of Biostatistics Vanderbilt
  Frank> University

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