Martin Maechler wrote:
>>>>>> "Frank" == Frank E Harrell <f.harrell@(protected)>
>>>>>> on Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:59:45 -0600 writes:
>
> Frank> Matthew Keller wrote:
> >> Bob,
> >>
> >> Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one
> >> that I imagine most people who use R have come
> >> across. The name "R" is a big impediment to effective
> >> online searches. As a check, I entered "R software", "SAS
> >> software", SPSS software", and "S+ software" into
> >> google. The R 'hit rate' was only ten out of the first 20
> >> results (I didn't look any further). For the other three
> >> software packages, the hit rates were all 100% (20/20).
> >>
> >> I do wonder if anything can/should be done about this. I
> >> generally search using the term "CRAN" but of course,
> >> that omits lots of stuff relevant to R. Any ideas about
> >> how to do effective online searches for "R" related
> >> materials?
>
> I don't think we (the R foundation) will ever change away from
> "R"..
>
> >>
> >> Matt
>
> Frank> I just googled for "R" and www.r-project.org was the
> Frank> first hit. Don't see a problem at present.
>
> We are getting really off-topic, but that's interesting:
>
> We all know that Google is helping the Chinese government to
> censor their own people, so searches there can lead to
> completely different results. But even here in Zurich
> Switzerland, I get quite a different hitlist :
>
> 1) stat.ethz.ch/~statsoft/stat.programme/R.html [in German]
>
> 2) Our local CRAN mirror: stat.ethz.ch/CRAN/
>
> 3) R - (German-language) Wikipedia about letter "R": de.wikipedia.org/wiki/R
>
> 4) DVD-R - (German-language) Wikipedia de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-R
>
> 5) The R Project for Statistical Computing http://www.r-project.org/
>
> So 3/5 are related to R which sounds good, but actually these 3
> are all from the first twenty: 3/20.
>
> Martin
Interesting. I just tried www.google.ca and got
1) The R Project for Statistical Computing http://www.r-project.org/
2) Wikipedia on the letter R (which also does mention the R software).
3) CRAN: cran.r-project.org
4) R Commander
with a pretty respectable number of hits in the next 50, and the
sponsored link is "Mango Solutions provide training and consulting on
the R language."
Paul
>
>
> >> On 2/6/07, Wensui Liu <liuwensui@(protected):
> >>> I've been looking for job that allows me to use R/S+
> >>> since I got out of graduate school 2 years ago but with
> >>> no success. I am wondering if there is something that
> >>> can be done to promote the use of R in industry.
> >>>
> >>> It's been very frustrating to see people doing
> >>> statistics using excel/spss and even more frustrating to
> >>> see people paying $$$ for something much inferior to R.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2/6/07, Doran, Harold <HDoran@(protected):
> >>>> The other day, CNN had a story on working at
> >>>> Google. Out of curiosity, I went to the Google
> >>>> employment web site (I'm not looking, but just
> >>>> curious). In perusing their job posts for
> >>>> statisticians, preference is given to those who use R
> >>>> and python. Other languages, S-Plus and something
> >>>> called SAS were listed as lower priorities.
> >>>>
> >>>> When I started using Python, I noted they have a
> >>>> portion of the web site with job postings. CRAN does
> >>>> not have something similar, but think it might be
> >>>> useful. I think R is becoming more widely used in
> >>>> industry and I wonder if helping it move along a bit,
> >>>> the maintainer of CRAN could create a section of the
> >>>> web site devoted to jobs where R is a requirement.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hence, we could have our own little "monster.com" kind
> >>>> of thing going on. Of the multitude of ways the gospel
> >>>> can be spread, this is small. But, I think every small
> >>>> step forward is good.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone think this is useful?
> >>>>
> >>>> Harold
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> WenSui Liu A lousy statistician who happens to know a
> >>> little programming
> >>> (http://spaces.msn.com/statcompute/blog)
> >>>
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> >>
>
>
> Frank> -- Frank E Harrell Jr Professor and Chair School of
> Frank> Medicine Department of Biostatistics Vanderbilt
> Frank> University
>
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